Did you know that the menopause can trigger schizophrenia? Yes, it turns out that not only has Mother Nature contrived to make it possible for us to drown in our own sweat, lose our memories, hair and sex appeal, but our falling oestrogen levels can also drive us mad!
While listening to the All in the Mind podcast from ABC Radio National I heard a fascinating interview with Professor Jayashri Kulkarni, Professor of Psychiatry and Director of the Monash Alfred Psychiatry Research Centre in Melbourne, Australia.
The programme, entitled Art, Science and Schizophrenia, explored how scientists, clinicians and artists are working together to improve the experience of those living with schizophrenia.
Menopause and Schizophrenia
When it came to exploring the causes and onset of schizophrenia, Professor Kulkarni made a point I’ve never come across before. In the interview she said:
When we look at the age of first-time schizophrenia, there is a difference between men and women in that men present about almost eight years younger, so you tend to see first episode schizophrenia in young men—16 to 19 years of age. Whereas the first episode of schizophrenia in women tends to come on later, so they’re about 23 onwards to about 30, and then there’s a second blip if you like, or a second group of women who develop schizophrenia in their mid to late 40s for the first time in their lives. That doesn’t happen in men. And these are findings worldwide. And one of the things that suggests a difference is that perhaps there’s something that’s happening in the onset of puberty that is affecting the onset of psychosis in someone who’s perhaps got some family history or genetics of it, or there are other factors going on. In a lot of ways that epidemiological observation fits with the clinical observation that we’re seeing, and fits with some animal work which suggests that oestrogen is protective in the brain.
So of course after puberty women have massive rises of oestrogen and that is perhaps protecting them from becoming sick earlier in their lives. And at the menopause bump in the mid 40s to late 40s they lose that protection of oestrogen, so uncover this second if you like ‘at risk’ time for women. We’ve been using oestrogen as a treatment as well in combination with other treatments and found some really important results. And the interesting thing is that a number of women actually intuitively have also told us they observed their own mental state to be worse at low-oestrogen phases of their menstrual cycle and also in the women approaching menopause—that that’s another time when their mental state becomes affected. We also know that women who have had babies, in their post-natal period are at greater risk of both post-natal depression and post-natal psychosis…
Professor Kulkarni makes two very interesting points. They are:
- Some women may develop schizophrenia for the first time in their lives in their 40s when they are menopausal and
- Oestrogen has been found to be an effective treatment in combination with other treatments.
Treatment of Schizophrenia with Synthetic Oestrogen
In trial results published in 2010 Professor Kulkarni and her team found that Raloxifene — a synthetic oestrogen currently used to treat osteoporosis – had beneficial effects on postmenopausal women with schizophrenia. In the trial a test group experienced a more rapid recovery from psychotic and other symptoms compared to control groups.
What to Make of it All?
On the one hand I find it alarming that being menopausal and experiencing falling levels of oestrogen could have such an extreme effect on women’s mental health. On the other hand, it is reassuring to know that the cure could lie in replacing hormone levels rather than administering more anti-psychotic drugs.
Either way, the link between hormones and mental health is fascinating and one we still know so little about.
This is still an area that is not really talked about in the literature about menopause. If you have any further knowledge or experience of this issue, I’d love to hear from you. Please leave a comment below.
Further Reading:
Read the transcript from the All in the Mind ‘Art, Science and Schizophrenia’ podcast. Click ‘Show’ next to ‘Transcript’.
You can read more about Professor Kulkarni’s research in this online article: Gender Differences in Schizophrenia and First-Episode Psychosis: A Comprehensive Literature Review.
Science Daily Article: Brain Estrogen Shows Promise as Schizophrenia Treatment
Im 52 and am going through hell. For two years i was offered antidepressants but am now on hrt. I have a mirina coil. My symptoms are 30 days ‘good’ and then 10/11 days feeling like im in the twilight zone. I have nightmares and bad sleep and then having waking dreams with flashbacks which moments later i forget. I feel really awful and eel like im being sick out of the top of my head. Smells sounds something familiar … anything can all contribute to me feeling constantly in edge and out of sorts to an extreme. I feel awful for every minute of the 10 days. My husband says im distant like im not whole and emotional wreck…i cry over things much more. Im constantly recalling my visions which i then stop mid tale as their lost and i just cant wait till the ten days are up when day by day im back to normal. An increase of hrt has helped and they are much better than before i was on hrt but im desperate for more help.
Hi Cath. Sorry to hear you’re going through hell. I think the best thing is to seek specialist help either from a psychiatrist or gynaecologist or preferably someone who has knowledge of both. Did these symptoms only start after you had the Mirena coil fitted or were they there before? Did the 30 days good/ 10 days bad cycle start with the introduction of oestrogen? Work out if there was a trigger with the HRT and discuss with your doctor. If you think there is a link with your HRT I would suggest you discuss having the Mirena coil removed and trying a different form of progesterone, preferably natural micronised progesterone which may have fewer side-effects and is not associated with increasing the risk of breast cancer. It may be that you are progesterone intolerant. I’m not a doctor so I don’t really know what else to suggest but I hope you get the help you need as soon as possible. Please let me know how you get on.
Take estrogen but not progesterone
Same for me
I had severe post natally psychosis with my first pregnancy ( had mild depression before). The ladt 2 weeks before my period would be worse MH symptoms, relieved by periid. Diagnosed with schizophrenia. Perimenopause was better, the break in periods led me to realise that I had a hormonal problem, with periods coming every 3 to 5 months. Now tgat I haven’t had a period for just over a year, I have had much worse psychosis that has plagued me every day for 7 months. Certainly the menopause has made me much worse. I have history of blood clot in leg so I don’t think I could have HRT. Are there any natural treatments whigh I could try? I want to see my GP for him to teSt my hormone levels before I try any treatments. Thank you for your information.
Hi Sally. Sorry to hear about your psychosis. As you say, I don’t think HRT would be suitable for you because of your history of blood clots. Unfortunately I don’t know of any natural treatments that would help with schizophrenia, particularly that which is hormonally related. I imagine you would have to try and find someone who was trained in both medicine/psychiatry and herbal medicine to treat you. Speak to your GP and see what he says. Sorry I can’t be of more help. Please let me know if you do manage to find someone here in the UK who can help you.
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I’m confused about my head and behaviour symptoms. I am 51 and perimenopausal and often my head feels like fragmented.
If I drink at the pub and talk to friends I’ve in hindsight noticed I am bit manic and have out of character behaviour…
I’m not sure if PM can actually CAUSE a previously undiagnosed mental condition such as schizophrenia, bipolar or even dementia if left untreated?
I have suffered with anxiety and moderate depression for many years.
Hi Nicola. Drops in oestrogen levels during perimenopause can certainly trigger mental health issues in some women so it is worth discussing this with your doctor or a mental health professional. It will only trigger something like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder if this is an underlying issue – these conditions are often genetic. Some women suffer from hormonal depression from lack of oestrogen, other women find that they are progesterone intolerant and taking progesterone in the form of HRT causes depression. Many women find that they cannot tolerate alcohol as well as they used to – this is due to age and dehydration. Hormone imbalance can also make you feel as if you have foggy head or are unable to concentrate. It is worth getting to the bottom of the cause of your symptoms so I urge you to talk to a medical professional.
I had postnatal psychosis twice and one of my daughters was diagnosed with schizoaffective mood disorder bipolar type in her late teens; she has never been well since, her moods cycle rapidly with constant suicidal ideations. Her perimenstrual physical symptoms have led the doctors believe she has endometriosis widely dispersed, including her lungs. She just started daily Cerazette (progestin mini pill) but we remain concerned that her moods might drop to dangerous level. For years, her monthly cycle has manifested in fluctuating moods of mania and deep depression. I hope the phychiatry teams would learn more about the impact of endocrine hormones on the brain function.
Hi Laila. I’m sorry to hear about your daughter’s struggle. I don’t know if you have read my posts on progesterone intolerance, but I think this is something worth bearing in mind if your daughter’s depression and suicidal ideations get worse with the progestin. Progesterone made me feel suicidal and very depressed. I hope for your daughter’s sake that her psychiatrists take her hormones into account. However with her endometriosis diagnosis I’m not sure oestrogen therapy will be an option.
I was diagnosed in 1995. I told my drs then that my mental health got worse around my period. They told me it wouldn’t make any difference to my mental health at all. I’ve know all along that there’s a link because whenever I got a relapse it was around my period. I’m peri menopausal now and I can feel it messing with my mental health. My family have a history of blood clots and stroke so I doubt I’d be able to have hrt. I worry about it slot.
Hi Jackie. My family also has a history of blood clots. Before I started taking HRT my doctor did a blood test to determine how my blood clotted to see if it was safe for me to take HRT. You could ask your doctor to order such a test for you. This sounds like something you should persist with, especially as you have noticed the link with your period. Best of luck.
Thank you for this article , it resonates with the experience that I believe my partner experienced . She was a quiet shy child that seemed to only have any close relationship with her pets . Her relationship with her mother seemed distant . Her personality seemed to dramatically change with the onset of puberty . She became outgoing and with a great deal of drive. A high achiever ( MA) and extremely successful business executive with the ability to persuade fortune 100 companies CEOs to follow her recommendations . A totally quirky and individual person not afraid to take risks and with supreme confidence. This all changed in her early 50s she had a dramatic change of personality and over a 9 month period turned into a frightened psychotic she’ll. She could not comprehend why she felt as she did . Constantly uncertain of who I was , paranoid to the extreme of feeling helicopters were watching her it all ended in hospitalisation , and after discharge with suicide . I have raised the subject with the medical authority to be told she was suffering from depression , which no doubt she was , but as a symptom I feel now of the deeper problem of Schitzophrenia as a driving force . If only one asks , had any of the doctors that hart Gerhard kept abreast of this research as opposed to reaching for the neuroleptic ( nice recommended) solution that she did not follow .
Hi Les. I’m so sorry to hear what happened to your partner. From what you describe it certainly sounds like she is dealing with more than just depression. I hope you have managed to find the right psychiatric help for her.
I work in mental health and carry out mental health act assessments. I am concerned that there are women who may be menopausal, but their long history of mental health over rides investigation or tests to confirm they are experiencing the menopause. is there more reading material I can access.
Hi Linda. For diagnosis of menopause, you could begin with the new NICE guidelines: https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng23. If your female patients are suffering from long-term depression and have also experienced severe PMS it’s worth considering that their depression may have a hormonal basis. Professor John Studd is a UK expert in this field – have a look at his very informative website: http://www.studd.co.uk/reproductivedepression.php. I’m not aware of any other specific reading material on mental health and menopause. If you search the menopause journal Maturitas, you may find some useful research articles there: http://www.maturitas.org/ I hope you’re able to find the information you’re looking for to help your patients.
I’m a 40-something with schizophrenia who has been experiencing many symptoms of perimenopause, and worrying, fretting, obsessing, am I going to get worse, psychiatric-ally? Or are my medications going to stave the more severe symptoms off? This article gives me hope that something else can be tried for relief, if I do get worse as menopause progresses. Hormonal therapies are something I hadn’t even thought of. I had never made the connection. Thank you for writing this and sharing it with those like me so we don’t worry, and fret, and obsess, we instead have a solid possible solution to try.
I’m so glad this helped Cydniey. Thanks for letting me know and I hope you get through menopause unscathed.